June 20th, 2013

SO. Sorry I haven’t updated but it’s good news that I am because now I have a computer! I need a 10 key touch to enter data because it’s hard without one, but I did it today anyway. This is data from last Thursday. Last week I worked 48 hours so I kept getting distracted and Thursday was my only full day.

The main thing I want to point out is average wait time. California schools are now out for summer so this data more accurately represents a typical summer day. Expect times like this through August. Average wait times for both parks is over 30 minutes.

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Just an FYI, I realize these pictures are outrageously small and unreadable but you can click on them and they are a lot more readable. Anyway that is Disneyland. Below is California Adventure.

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So that’s about all I really have to share. It’s not extremely different than anything else, but I know I would be curious. My brother mentioned today he would appreciate if I did a podcast so I’m thinking I might start one. Those of you interested, I’d love to hear from  you. (If just Jay wants to hear me talk I could probably just call him ha!) I’ve also had a few questions about what I would do if I were to go to Disneyland anytime soon. I will be doing that pretty soon as well so keep an eye out. 🙂

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Disneyland Wait Time Apps

I’ve been using Mousewait exclusively to track wait times for my blog until last week when someone introduced me to DL Waits. I got curious about what else I was missing. Well turns out there are four pretty popular wait time apps so I’ve decided to do a little summary on each and compare them a bit.

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MouseWait

This app is the first app that comes up when you search for a wait time app, and for good reason. It’s rated quite high and I think it has an awesome appearance overall. I really like how it tells you when the time listed was posted. It also tells you about fast passes which a few others neglect to do.  One thing it’s missing is a way to pick favorite rides. You have to scroll through all the rides to find the times you want. Read below and you’ll see what I mean by this. Also a pro, it’s FREE. (Although it does have the option to upgrade without ads.)

WalkeeWait

This one is very similar to MouseWait in terms of what you see initially. There is a sweet Fastpass Return Time feature where you can submit the return time on your fastpass and it will send you an alert 40 and 20 minutes prior to your return time. I know someone like my boyfriend who chooses to forget things quickly (but I do love him) could really benefit from something like this. I’m crazy planner psycho vacationer so I don’t know how helpful that would be to me personally but I think it’s a neat feature. Another thing I really like about this app is that there aren’t as many rides listed. This might be a bad thing to many but I personally don’t care about the wait times for things like “Castle Walk Through” that never really have a wait. It makes it a lot easier to find what you’re looking for. This one is also free with ads.

DLR Lines

DLR Lines looks like something I could create after an hour long “Make Your Own App” course at a community rec center: it’s ugly. I’m just glad they didn’t use the “comic sans” font. I like that it says the wait time and then says “Posted 10 Minutes ago”. For those who can’t see that if it was posted at 9:45 and it’s now 10:00 that it was 15 minutes ago (that was sarcasm). This app is extremely cluttered because they have wait times for things that most of us don’t care about. Chip ‘n Dale Tree. I’m not sure even sure where that is in the park but it’s a play area so why would there need to be a wait time? It’s just a little too busy for my taste. Maybe I’m bitter because I paid a dollar for this and it’s not even worth the time to download it free. If you pay for a subscription to something else I guess they will provide you with a plan for the day. If you follow my blog you can plan your own schedule and probably rarely wait. (Maybe I should create plans.. hey there’s an idea. But every day differs so much. Why restrain yourself to a specific schedule?)

DL Waits

This one is not as pretty as MouseWait but I think it’s my favorite. I don’t like that you can’t see when the times were posted but from what I’ve been watching this one is updated more often than MouseWait. My favorite thing about this app is I can pick “favorite” rides and then I have my own personalized list of rides I care about. This has been especially helpful while I’m tracking my times. I don’t have to scroll through all the rides that aren’t interesting in terms of data. This one is also free with ads and probably the one I will be using the most in the park. It isn’t the prettiest in terms of design but it’s not as ugly as it could be either.

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Hope this helped for those of you like me who go to Disneyland for shorter amounts of time and need to be as efficient as possible. Happy waiting!

Brief Discovered Tips

Because I have failed to update you recently, I have way too much data that really isn’t terribly fascinating. I’ve decided to summarize a few random things I’ve found over the weekend and past week.

Closed Rides

I know before I started doing this I always had little mini anxiety attacks when I noticed one of my favorite rides was closed. I have never been to Disneyland longer than two days at a time so I thought for sure I wouldn’t be able to ride the ride. The fact of the matter is rides are typically not closed for longer than an hour. If you notice a ride is closed, go to something near by and check back. One thing I have noticed though,  is right after the ride has opened up after being closed for some amount of time, the wait is about 50% longer. It goes back down to an average wait time after about an hour though. This isn’t the case for every ride but I have noticed it occasionally with Radiator Springs Racers, Slash Mountain, Space Mountain and Indiana Jones.

First Thing’s First

If you are going to be in Disneyland or California Adventure for only 1-2 days I highly suggest getting to the park as soon as it opens. For the first two hours of the day, park capacity is at about 20%-40% and the wait times are substantially shorter. However, everyone thinks “I’m going to run right for the ride that has the longest wait first thing in the morning and then I won’t wait as long”. Let me show you the data from June 4th of Radiator Springs Racers:

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Granted this is an extreme example. The highest point of the day for this ride is not always first thing in the morning but it does get pretty close to it’s max because everyone thinks to rush there first. Where you want to go first is the Fastpass line for this ride. My sister and I went right after this opened last August and I waited in line to just get a fast pass first thing in the morning for 40 minutes. It is not THAT popular anymore (thank goodness) but I still expect it to be a pretty populated area and I would go there first. Then I would head over to do California Soarin’. (I’m not much of a roller coaster fan or I’d suggest Tower of Terror.)

At Disneyland I would definitely go get a fast pass for Space Mountain and then get right in line to ride it. That is my favorite ride so I try to get fast passes every chance I can and will wait in line if the wait is less than 20 minutes. If it looks too long for comfort, I’d go to Matterhorn. That one doesn’t have a fast pass so if the wait is less than 30 minutes I will wait in line.

Staying Until Close

I’ve been trying to see if it’s really worth it to stay until close. I have had troubles staying up late enough everyday to really see if it’s worth it but looking at my data it doesn’t look like the rides really decrease much in wait time. I will stay until close because I like to get my money’s worth but if you are going to be in the area for more than three days I’d just say go home when you’re tired.

I still don’t have a computer of my own yet so my  posts are brief and I apologize. I am staying on top of data so will update any MAJOR findings. “I do apologize but that’s just the way it goes sometimes.”  Watch this. You’re welcome. Bad News Commercial.

Delayed Updates

I’m really sorry I’ve had troubles updating my findings. I am lacking a very important key to the whole blogging thing: a computer. This far into it I’ve been using my work computers, but some days are easier to do personal things than others.

I was so excited to track this weekend and I got all hours for Friday and Sunday but completely messed stuff up on Saturday. I’m quite sad about it. I will update Friday really soon though! I’ve got the data entered I just need to make it look nice.

One thing I did notice though is Sunday was extremely busy overall. I’ll give details soon. It seemed busier than Saturday even which I thought was interesting. Both Friday and Saturday the park opened at 9:00 instead of 8:00 and I’m still not sure why because it wasn’t on the park calendar that way. Anyway. Hope Monday is great!

PS. Check out this logo my sister made me!mickey-math-logo

Thursday June 6th, 2013

Well I was all ready to start tracking my times today right at 8:00 California time, and it turns out the park doesn’t open until 9:00 today. (Does anyone know why?) So while I’m waiting I thought I’d update you about yesterday.

First I need to thank my follower disneypostcards. He or she asked me if I had ever heard of DL Waits (I had not). I was so excited about her post because it gave me something else to research! As soon as I read the comment I downloaded the app and started tracking. I didn’t get a full days worth because I didn’t read her comment until about 11:00 but I did get the majority of the day. As it turns out, the daily averages were pretty close in time, but DL Waits, as a whole, typically had longer wait times. Mouse Wait allows for guests to use any number for minutes to wait and DL Waits only allows for multiples of 5 but I didn’t think it would affect the data too much.

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(The layout I’ve chosen for my blog makes all my pictures extremely small but if you click on them you can seem them full sized.) ANYWAY. What you’re looking at is average wait time for yesterday (11:00-10:00). DL Waits’ times seems more accurate to my experiences at Disneyland. I’m really excited to go to the park (August!!) and see for myself. I will definitely keep you posted on this. If any of you prefer one of these apps over another for any particular reason I’d like to hear why!

Some little punk-nosed kid changed all the wait times to 1 minute yesterday around 4:00 and it messed up the times for a solid half hour. But I will post the data anyway. I  just took an average of the time it was previously and what it was the hour after. I was really disappointed because I’ve noticed a peak right at that time and I was hoping to track it. Such is life.

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The average wait time over all for both parks is very similar but California Adventure’s times vary a lot more than Disneyland’s. Disneyland’s time’s climb throughout the day and California Adventure doesn’t seem to have a steady climb that is as apparent. As you can see above.

The past two days I haven’t been able to post my full spreadsheet because the files are too big or something. I’ve been using my work computers to do all my blogs this far but should be getting a new computer (waiting for the 4th generation Intel processors because my boyfriend feels that’s necessary) sometime next week and hopefully things will be better formatted among other things.

Wednesday June 5th, 2013

These past two days I have had to be to work by 6 a.m. so I’ve been going to bed before the park closes which makes me a little sad because I would really like a complete chart of data. I will be able to stay up later the next couple of days so hopefully we get a little more accurate data coming into the weekend.

Yesterday I posted a chart to demonstrate patterns of wait times as a whole. I did this for two reasons: It was interesting to me to clearly see a trend to all the times, and the other line graphs I looked at were really hard to read. I found a type I like today! Let me know if this makes the data clear to you as well. 

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When you see a large drop to zero that means the ride has closed. I’m getting a sense that the more popular rides close at least once a day. I’m wondering if there is any sort of pattern. I will definitely keep you posted on that. As of right now there’s not enough days for me to say for sure if you can anticipate a ride being closed at a particular point of the day.

I’ve noticed with Grizzly River Run that the wait in the hottest part of the day is usually quite long. For good reason of course; you get wet on this ride. My advice would be to get a fast pass for anytime before 2:00 and use it when you’re feeling especially hot. (Summer suggestion only, obviously).

I feel like something people miss a lot is HOW to make your fast passes as effective as possible. If the wait is less than the average (typically 20 minutes, some rides quite a bit more) then wait in line and use your fast pass for around 4 or 5 when wait times start getting really long.

I’m excited to track into the weekend and see how much busier it gets. My hypothesis is the average wait time will go up to about 30 minutes over all. Aren’t you excited to find out?!?

Quick Update

On my last post I showed how the distributions are peaking around 4:00-5:00 and decrease around 2:00. The chart type I used demonstrated what I wanted but I have no clue what exactly the side numbers meant. Well I created a bar graph for this post’s data so you can see the same pattern and the numbers on the side actually have something to do with my data. Pretty interesting to me, personally. I would say take lunch at 1:00 and eat dinner at about 5:00. Save fast passes for right before and after your dinner; that is the point where you will be saving the most time.

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Tuesday June 4th, 2013

I wasn’t going to add data until I came to some sort of conclusion. Well I’ve come to a conclusion. I assembled the data from yesterday’s wait times and a few things surprised me.

1. Last time I tracked times (last summer), wait times slowed down around 1:00 so my sister and I planned to eat lunch around noon to make use of the lower wait times. This summer that does not seem to be the case. At least for yesterday, most wait times continued rising around 1:00. So my answer for which time should you stop to take lunch is probably 1:00 so you don’t get caught in the middle of the day waiting for Space Mountain for 45 minutes. As you can see, most rides slowed a little bit at around 2:00 and peaked at 4:00-5:00 at Disney and California Adventure got a little busy around 10:00 and 5:00.

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(Sorry this cut off a lot of the legend I’m having some formatting issues, but you get the idea)

2. Radiator Springs wait time is down substantially from last summer. When I went last summer it was a brand new ride and insanely popular. Although the average wait time is a little over 90 minutes, that’s about a half hour less than last summer. (Still worth it to just get a fast pass and ride once. If you love it do single rider.)

3. Something interesting you may want to know; the average time you wait in lines for each ride at both Disneyland and California Adventure is a little over 20 minutes. Fun fact.

I will attach my spread sheet from yesterday. It’s nothing too interesting. Splash Mountain and Indiana Jones had the longest maximum wait time at 75 minutes and overall Indiana Jones is the longest wait at a daily average of a little under 40 minutes. Radiator Springs by far was the longest wait at 137 minutes first thing in the morning. Like I said, just get a fast pass for this.

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A Brief Introduction and Summary

The people who have read my blogs in the past know exactly how much I love math. So I’m just trying to solidify the fact that I am indeed a nerd. My sister and I went to the happiest place on earth last year, and in order to maximize our time, I calculated the most efficient way to make our way around the park. I loved mixing two of my favorite things and have wanted to continue charting different aspects of the park (busiest day of the week, guests in park, ext.), so this is a place to save my data and explain it (if anyone else is interested).

I’ve read lots of Disney blogs and things posted on Pinterest about how to go about your time at Disney, and it all seems so generic. Advice like “don’t forget to get fast passes!” And “park food is expensive bring snacks!” seem pretty common sense. So, I’m going to find things that aren’t as intuitive and inform the public (my mom, sister, maybe Jacci, and a few random ward members most likely).

I’m still learning excel but I will chart most (or all) of my data on that program. i’m using an app called “Mouse Wait” which is a social network where people in the park can update the times as they explore the park. This won’t be the most accurate data but its the best I can do being in Utah which is a different state than California (for those of you who weren’t aware)..? Anyway, any suggestions or ideas are welcome! I’m just tracking wait times right now but will take any and all ideas.

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